Numbers tell a story — and the outdoor hospitality market is changing quickly. On September 3 at 2:00 PM ET, Brian Searl and a panel of analysts and association leaders break down the latest data, trends, and economic shifts shaping the industry.
Joining him for this discussion are returning guests Scott Bahr, President of Cairn Consulting Group; Simon Neal, Founder and CEO of CampMap; Miguel Huerta, President of the Mexican Glamping Association; Rafael Correa, President and CFO of Blue Water Development Corp; Eleanore Hamm, President of RVDA Canada, and Phil Ingrassia, Executive Director of RVDA,
We’re also excited to welcome special guests Whitney Scott, Principal & Co-Founder of Walden; Steph Curtis Raleigh, Director and Glamping Business Americas Editor at Glamping Show Americas; and Jessica Kirchner, VP of Consumer Events and Show Director at Glamping Show Americas.
The conversation promises to challenge assumptions, spark new ideas, and give you a clear view of where the industry is headed next. You’ll want to be part of it.
August 27th Episode Recap
The episode of MC Fireside Chats, hosted by Brian Searl of Insider Perks and Modern Campground, centered on the convergence of marketing, AI, and technology within the outdoor hospitality industry. Brian opened the discussion by welcoming back a panel of recurring and special guests: Cara Csizmadia of the Canadian Camping and RV Association (CCRVA), Ravi Parish, Founder of RoverPass, and Nate Taylor of Taylor Coach. They were also joined later by Greg Emmert, an outdoor advisory consultant. The conversation quickly delved into how these rapidly evolving fields are fundamentally reshaping business operations and consumer behavior.
Brian kicked off the discussion by highlighting a major shift in traditional marketing. He argued that long-standing strategies like meticulously crafted email marketing are becoming obsolete as AI begins to summarize content on lock screens, potentially preventing consumers from ever seeing a business’s carefully designed call to action. He also touched on the shift in social media from being about friends to being primarily an entertainment platform, where businesses must compete with a massive and growing volume of AI-generated content. He expressed concern that many business owners are like “frogs in a pot of boiling water,” unaware of the fundamental changes happening around them.
Nate Taylor offered a manufacturer’s perspective, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and human connection. He believes the industry has a major “miss” by not fully embracing video content, which he sees as more powerful than traditional email marketing. Nate shared that his company, Taylor Coach, finds success with simple, unpolished videos filmed on a cell phone because they feel genuine and relatable. He argued that consumers prefer to see real people talking about their experiences, and that AI-polished, “perfect” videos can feel fake and remove the human element of the camping lifestyle. He also noted that while AI is useful for back-end tasks like grammar and auto-filling forms, it should not replace the personal touch that builds trust.
Ravi Parish approached the topic from a B2B software perspective, highlighting how AI is making it incredibly fast and easy to build websites and create compelling marketing content. He agreed with the shift towards personalized content, suggesting that AI can eventually allow businesses to create hyper-customized videos and messages for individual customers. While acknowledging the overwhelming pace of AI development, Ravi maintained that the core value of a business will always be providing exceptional service. He believes AI’s role is to make that service more efficient and personalized, unlocking new business models and industries that were previously too expensive to operate.
Cara Csizmadia added an association-level viewpoint, emphasizing the importance of building trust in an age where AI can generate anything. She noted that Canadian campers are embracing technology, but they also want to feel a genuine connection with the brands they support. Cara shared an anecdote about using AI to create a comprehensive development plan for a municipality, revealing how quickly the technology can perform tasks that would have taken a team of people weeks to complete. However, she believes there will always be a place for human oversight, especially in areas where a human touch or critical, on-the-spot judgment is needed.
Greg Emmert, joining the conversation late, emphasized that the first step for any business is to define its “why”—its core purpose and target audience—before jumping into marketing and AI tools. He uses AI as an assistant to help clients navigate this philosophical process, calling it a great tool for sparking new ideas and clarifying a business’s identity. He echoed the other panelists’ sentiments on authenticity, stressing that a business can only effectively market itself if it understands who it is and who it serves. He also joked about the potential for unionized robots that take breaks.
The group concluded with a discussion on the future of jobs and society. While acknowledging that AI and automation will likely reduce the need for certain roles, they agreed that new industries and job types will emerge. The conversation also touched on the idea that as technology handles more mundane tasks, humans may have more time for family, leisure, and creative pursuits, ultimately leading to more time for camping and enjoying the outdoors. They ended by encouraging campground owners to embrace technology now, as early adopters will be the ones to reap the rewards of this new era.
Shorter summary: In an episode of MC Fireside Chats focused on marketing, AI, and technology, panelists Brian Searl, Cara Csizmadia, Ravi Parish, Nate Taylor, and Greg Emmert discussed how to balance the integration of new technologies with the crucial need for authenticity and human connection to build trust and ensure the long-term success of businesses in the outdoor hospitality industry.
About MC Fireside Chats
MC Fireside Chats is a live podcast experience dedicated to the outdoor hospitality and outdoor recreation industries. Hosted by Brian Searl, founder and CEO of Insider Perks and Modern Campground, the show offers engaging discussions with industry leaders, innovators, and experts shaping the future of camping, RVing, glamping, and outdoor recreation.
Airing every Wednesday at 2 p.m. (ET), the show follows a structured weekly theme to deliver deep dives into the most relevant topics:
- Week 1: Industry Trends & Insights
- Week 2: Enhancing Guest Experience
- Week 3: Business Operations & Management
- Week 4: RV Industry, Outdoor Recreation & Activities
Each episode features a panel of recurring guests, complemented by 1–2 rotating special guests, including industry analysts, campground owners, technology providers, sustainability advocates, and more. Whether exploring the latest market trends or innovative guest experience strategies, MC Fireside Chats delivers thought-provoking insights for professionals and enthusiasts across the outdoor recreation spectrum.
To explore previous episodes of MC Fireside Chats, visit: moderncampground.com/mc-fireside-chats.